Why all games from now on MUST be like Borderlands

[thrasherv3]

Why all games from now on MUST be like Borderlands
Not really a proper reviewer but still...

[Azirik]

Id like BL to have the Geo-Mod 2.0. Mmmmmmmm that would be fun

[trollnest]

Single player = Masturbation

4 player co-op = Orgy

hahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaaa

[maawdawg]

It is hard to take an article like this seriously when it starts with the admission "I haven't played the game".

I am all for pumping up the game but this is one is a bit out there for my taste.

[MysterD]

RPG Elements
Borderlands stands out in the vast crowd of generic shooter games because it incorporates a heavy amount of RPG elements, thus making the experience much deeper, and personalized. You can find new loot which allows you to upgrade your weapons. You can gain experience to enhance your stats for various abilities. There is no reason why a game like Gears of War or Halo can’t include RPG elements that would allow you to enhance your character and stats.

Even a game like Puzzle Quest proved that a puzzle game can break all expecations with RPG features. I was completely bored with the match 3 puzzle game genre until that game showed me that too many developers are taking a lazy route when creating match 3 puzzle clones.

I don't think Borderlands is a full-on RPG. It misses an element.

I believe there's two main elements commonly found in RPG's:
Element #1. The decision-making factor that can alter the outcome of the game-world; characters; cities; quests; story; and even the game's actual ending.
Element #2. The character changing, stat-building, and skill-building factor.

The decision-making factor (element #1) is found in many Bioware RPG's (KOTOR, NWN: Hordes, Jade Empire), Planescape: Torment, and other RPG's probably is not going to be found too heavily in Borderlands.

Though, element #2 for sure is heavily going to be in Borderlands -- as that's usually very heavy in games classified as ARPG (Action-RPG), such as Hellgate: London, Titan Quest games, Diablo 2, and Ascaron's Sacred games.

[trollnest]

Originally Posted by g323

So splitscreen would be regular sex?

Thats what ive been trying to convince my wife

[trollnest]

good lord man, thousands of rpgs dont have element #1
in fact I'd go as far as to say they are a heavy majority

[MysterD]

Originally Posted by trollnest

good lord man, thousands of rpgs dont have element #1
in fact I'd go as far as to say they are a heavy majority

Well, maybe on the consoles - especially in the earlier years...

[Godak]

Originally Posted by MysterD

Element #1. The decision-making factor that can alter the outcome of the game-world; characters; cities; quests; story; and even the game's actual ending.

Eh...I would disagree. Role-Playing games only need to have an emphasis on player-character advancement. "Choice" and "Role-Playing" don't really go hand in hand. There will always be pre-generated functions that we must complete, giving the allusion of choice. If we are given choice "B" and choice "Q", we can't choose choice "42", even though it may be the most appealing. You see, the developers had not created that choice. Therefore, it does not exist.

[nikheizen]

Originally Posted by Godak

Eh...I would disagree. Role-Playing games only need to have an emphasis on player-character advancement. "Choice" and "Role-Playing" don't really go hand in hand. There will always be pre-generated functions that we must complete, giving the allusion of choice. If we are given choice "B" and choice "Q", we can't choose choice "42", even though it may be the most appealing. You see, the developers had not created that choice. Therefore, it does not exist.

Most games with a "choice system" have the stupid 2 way "moral choice" system, a dim and unconvincing simuracula for an actual choice, some games do a lot better than that, but at the current level it's kind of difficult to have a fully interactive universe where everything is possible in game form, technology is just not at that point yet. So for the time being, I think any ability to choose isn't half bad.